David DeAngelo
David DeAngelo is the
pseudonym of the founder of the "Double Your Dating" company, Eben Wind Pagan. "Double Your Dating" publishes literature and multimedia on dating and "seduction", mostly over the
Internet.
David DeAngelo is a dating adviser based in the United States. Originally a student of
Ross Jeffries and using the nickname Sisonpyh, DeAngelo's ideas were first widely published and publicized in the underground seduction newsletter called
Cliff's List.
[Cliff's List]DeAngelo's commercial career began with the release of his first book "Double Your Dating" in 2001. Since then, he has released many products aimed at helping men with dating.
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David DeAngelo at a speaking engagement |
DeAngelo argues that much of social behavior is related in some way to
sexual reproduction, and that human mating habits do not differ significantly from other species.
He suggest that societal conditioning has programmed many modern men to develop involuntary habits that increases the failure rate of consistently attracting women or negates the attractive qualities that originally made the woman want them.
DeAngelo disagrees that being physically attractive to the opposite gender is the only method to attract women successfully on a consistent basis.
DeAngelo: "Attraction isn't a choice."
According to DeAngelo, most men unknowingly allow women to dictate when and where relationships are formed.
One fundamental example according to him is how men often appeal to women using punch lines or praises in the belief that this will be enough to attract a woman to him. He expands on this example further by referring to gifts offered by men to women as bribes.
In this scenario, DeAngelo hopes to show how alot of men repeat the mistake of assuming most women are attracted to gifts and then feel heartbroken once a woman dumps them for someone else.
DeAngelo claims that by emphasizing a cocky and funny approach to courting women as well as developing other skills he sells that these men will be shown an alternative if not more successful way of being successful at dating.
It must be made clear that DeAngelo neither oppose the effectiveness of gifts nor recommend these methods beyond dating.
It is often cited in his newsletter that he emphasizes on the dating portion and his advises may cause problems once both man and woman agree to take it to a relationship level. He also rarely if ever imply that gifts are ineffective in attracting women. Rather, he seems to have the belief based on his newsletters that if his methods are considered to be manipulative than a man using gifts as a way to attract a lady would be a worse method of manipulation. Being that a gift often comes in physical form and it often provokes the woman into wanting more gifts thus causing the man to spend more. For DeAngelo, spending so much on a woman who may not even be the right woman for said man would only lead to greater disappointment if the date doesn't work out.
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The Inner Wuss: a character trait of men developed through time that causes them to become submissive around women in order for them to get the women's approval. DeAngelo claims that women prefer men who are equal to them
['The ultimate mistake men make with women'] (a related concept is 'Nice guy syndrome').
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Cocky and funny: literally being both cocky and funny at the same time. DeAngelo emphasizes that one is incomplete without the other to gain success using his method. Funny without enough cockiness may lead a woman to treat a guy as a friend. Cocky without humor may lead a woman to think of the guy as a jerk. While he doesn't deny that alot of women are attracted to jerks, DeAngelo also emphasize that jerks often make it hard for people to work it out at having a relationship nor is the jerk able to attract a wider variety of women. Also known as "Cocky Comedy" in his video series.
['How To Be Cocky And Funny'] *
Counterintuitive behavior: DeAngelo's description of some of his techniques to attract women, as they are the opposite of what most people
think is attractive. Examples of such behavior include teasing a woman offhandedly and refusing to compliment her appearance. May also be another synonym for being cocky
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Life changes: DeAngelo reiterates that the purpose of his programs is to effect a complete personality and lifestyle change among men that will help them achieve dating success.
[http://www.askmen.com/dating/dating_advice_150/175_dating_tips_a.html]*
Emulate the Successful: DeAngelo encourages the following and emulation of those successful with women. He records interviews with those very successful in dating and releases them monthly as part of a subscription service. Take note that this particular method is also often mentioned in other self help books and alot of men may be familiar with this notion already. DeAngelo expands on this by showing examples on how to implement this notion on his products rather than simply using the term.Some examples may include having 90 day commitment exercises, taking surveys, etc. All to make a person be better at emulating the successful.
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Sexual Communication: DeAngelo's principle of a 'secret mating language' or 'secret mating dance' that takes place between a man and a woman before they can mate. This may also be simply referred to as body language
Double Your Dating is a series of tutorials primarily advertised and sold through the internet.
The foundation for the
Double Your Dating series is an eponymous
ebook to help men "demystify" much of what goes into attraction. Following the ebook, DeAngelo created further materials in the series, including a second ebook, as well as several ebooklets, seminars on
DVDs and
CDs covering various topics (notably the Advanced and Mastery series), and the monthly
Interviews with Dating Gurus CDs.
DeAngelo runs a newsletter, which goes out to over 1 million subscribers across the world
[Strauss, N. (2005) The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists. New York, NY: HarperCollins.]. He is among the top 3 most sought after gurus in what is known as the "Seduction Community", along with Mystery and "Tyler Durden". The success stories sent in by readers often rate David DeAngelo's material very highly, giving stories of their sexual lives being entirely turned around. He is the first guru to ever include guest teachers from other programs into his seminars. He is also the first to introduce a monthly interview series that consists of a 1 to 2 hour interview with the world's best at seduction.
While some claim that his material is only used by men to manipulate women into having sex, DeAngelo states in one of his advanced dating technique seminars that people can use the techniques to achieve a variety of goals, whether the goal is to have casual sex or to form more lasting relationships. David DeAngelo, as part of the
Seduction Community as a whole, often comes under fire by women and men who advocate "just being yourself"
['Games Are For Children'], but is just as strongly defended by his proponents who argue that these opinions are based on ignorance of his actual material.
['Does Double Your Dating by David Deangelo help you succeed with women?']Many women who are published in his newsletter, and others who have appeared on his interviews and seminars, strongly approve of his material. Some of his students include Tyler Durden (co-founder of Real Social Dynamics), and Neil Strauss (New York Times bestselling author).
There is controversy in the Seduction Community regarding Deangelo's "Cocky & Funny" technique, and whether or not it has been over-emphasized.
['The Cocky Funny Thing And David DeAngelo'][http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=6&mn=1088586276160774] This technique is the one for which DeAngelo is best known. Critics believe the technique may backfire and can be easily interpreted as arrogant, insecure and phony and may actually harm a man's chances with women. Other organizations
[Dutch Seduction] have developed alternative methods such as "P&C" ("playful and confident") that they consider to be superior to DeAngelo's "cocky & funny" techniques, although most people in the community see very little difference between the two techniques.
In reaction to this criticism, DeAngelo stated in his Mastery program (CD 12-01) that he sometimes wished he had never said the words 'cocky & funny' because people often latch onto the technique and then try to use it in every situation imaginable. Further, he said that in order to master the art of women and dating, the greatest part of the effort should be put into honing identity, perceived reality, beliefs, and values and the least focus be given to the mastery of techniques.
In 2005, DeAngelo released a CD/DVD program called "Cocky Comedy", a program designed to focus on and teach the "Cocky & Funny" technique in detail. In this program, DeAngelo breaks down and teaches the concept of humor and what triggers laughter. He claims that humor is the one thing that brings people closer faster and more efficiently than almost all other forms of communication. DeAngelo also illustrates that laughter isn't usually triggered by something that is funny. According to DeAngelo, this series was created and released in response to the confusion and difficulty that some of his students were having with learning "Cocky & Funny".
Controversy about Catch Him and Keep Him
In 2005 there was much controversy in the online PUA community about
Christian Carter's identity and whether Christian Carter is another pen name for David DeAngelo, given that the site is registered, and possesses a similar site design, to Double Your Dating and that the writing style of Catch Him And Keep Him is very much like that of David DeAngelo's. This controversy erupted on Thundercat's 'Seduction Lair' blog, a blog popular in the PUA community (visited by such figures as Style, Mystery, Papa, Tyler Durden, Gunwitch, and Ross Jeffries).
In July 2005 a conflict ensued between a person claiming to be the real Christian Carter and
Ross Jeffries, under the nickname "Mine '99". Jeffries claimed that David DeAngelo is Christian Carter. [
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Jeffries wrote: "In the final analysis, if you wrote the book at Pagan's request or he is involved in the marketing of it, it is still a betrayal of his DYD customer list. He's still promoting and marketing a product that tells women to avoid the men who do the stuff he teaches in the DYD ebook."
The "Natural and Lasting Attraction" program gives a free sample video which shows Christian Carter lecturing to a live female audience [
2]. Additionally, Christian Carter is featured as a guest speaker in David DeAngelo's Advanced Dating Techniques program. A preview video of him speaking at the seminar is available
here.
Both the Catch Him and Keep Him and Double Your Dating newsletters give the same address for their offices: :3960 Howard Hughes Pkwy, 5th Floor,:Las Vegas, NV 89109
* http://www.doubleyourdating.com/ - "Double Your Dating" website
